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I'm of the camp that it can't be THIS easy to stop the Archon-shaped money/assets hemorrhaging problem, but surely Stanley would trust Parson's judgement? Especially since with the treasury emptied, he won't be able to pay for the Juggle's upkeep.

Eyebooks are vulnerable to Charlie, though, who may or may not be hooked back up to the Arkendish. Hmmm.

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Obviously the mystery caster has no particular feelings one way or the other about Parson, he simply heard "cue the Benny Hill music" and gave chase, compelled to do so by forces outside his control.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 3 - Page 100
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    Hopefully Parson's message gets to Stanley uninterrupted and Stanley acts on it. We know Charlie has the ability to mess with the eyebooks, and he probably wants to hurt Gobwin Knob. He might not let the message gets through.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 3 - Page 100
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    One amusing thing is that Stanley is afield, and we don't even know if he has an eyebook with him. With Maggie out of the picture for now, there may well be no way to get in touch with him. So Stanley is out in the field right now, freaking out because his treasury is gone and all of a sudden he's got an archon on the board in Charlescomm and he has no idea what the deal is with it.

    While disbanding Lilith would be a certain way of stopping the bleeding, in this case Stanley is dealing with his grandmaster 'I have a ridiculous plan that breaks the rules' Lord Hamster. He may well kick back and see how it plays out assuming his chief warlord has something in mind, only to realize too late that things are not going according to plan. - Of course, that's assuming he can even disband decrypted. Can rulers disband uncroaked? While they're certainly not the same, it may have a precedent.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 3 - Page 100
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    victor227 wrote:
    One amusing thing is that Stanley is afield, and we don't even know if he has an eyebook with him. With Maggie out of the picture for now, there may well be no way to get in touch with him. So Stanley is out in the field right now, freaking out because his treasury is gone and all of a sudden he's got an archon on the board in Charlescomm and he has no idea what the deal is with it.

    While disbanding Lilith would be a certain way of stopping the bleeding, in this case Stanley is dealing with his grandmaster 'I have a ridiculous plan that breaks the rules' Lord Hamster. He may well kick back and see how it plays out assuming his chief warlord has something in mind, only to realize too late that things are not going according to plan. - Of course, that's assuming he can even disband decrypted. Can rulers disband uncroaked? While they're certainly not the same, it may have a precedent.
    Stanley's got his Eyebook right there in the last panel, and it's playing Parson's sound effect, indicating that Parson has contacted him.

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    Lipkin wrote:
    What would happen if Wanda went Barbarian right now? Are the decrypted bound to her? Because if she went barbarian, and so did the decrypted, Lilith wouldn't be a GK unit and she could croak whoever she wanted.

    Their loyalty is to Wanda, and she does have a magical connection to them, but they otherwise seem count as regular units of GK. I mean, I'm sure the vast majority of them would follow her even against Stanley's orders if asked, but I doubt it would be automatic.

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    One amusing thing is that Stanley is afield, and we don't even know if he has an eyebook with him.

    The last panel of this comic would suggest that he does.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 3 - Page 100
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    LOL.

    Magnets, how do they work?

    Google that shit. It does not disappoint.


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     Post subject: Re: Book 3 - Page 100
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    Yeah, I'm thinking Stanley questions it and Parson learns about Ruler abilities today. We know Rulers can issue orders with some kind of Natural Thinkamancy or something, but that page was Stanley's mental perspective. So Lilith will get told to stand down after all that character buildup, or maybe Charlie will see the Eyebook conversation and offer a deal for transferring Lilith to him for further study, just to twist the knife a bit for the readers.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 3 - Page 100
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    ManaCaster wrote:
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    What would happen if Wanda went Barbarian right now? Are the decrypted bound to her? Because if she went barbarian, and so did the decrypted, Lilith wouldn't be a GK unit and she could croak whoever she wanted.

    Their loyalty is to Wanda, and she does have a magical connection to them, but they otherwise seem count as regular units of GK. I mean, I'm sure the vast majority of them would follow her even against Stanley's orders if asked, but I doubt it would be automatic.


    I wonder if Lilith could turn to Wanda at a distance is Stanley ordered it. Presumably yes, since automagical transfer of units is a thing.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 3 - Page 100
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    Overall I really like the new inking & painting, but Jack seems awfully...gaunt with those additional lines on his face. It makes him look so much older.

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    Lipkin wrote:
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    One amusing thing is that Stanley is afield, and we don't even know if he has an eyebook with him. With Maggie out of the picture for now, there may well be no way to get in touch with him. So Stanley is out in the field right now, freaking out because his treasury is gone and all of a sudden he's got an archon on the board in Charlescomm and he has no idea what the deal is with it.

    While disbanding Lilith would be a certain way of stopping the bleeding, in this case Stanley is dealing with his grandmaster 'I have a ridiculous plan that breaks the rules' Lord Hamster. He may well kick back and see how it plays out assuming his chief warlord has something in mind, only to realize too late that things are not going according to plan. - Of course, that's assuming he can even disband decrypted. Can rulers disband uncroaked? While they're certainly not the same, it may have a precedent.
    Stanley's got his Eyebook right there in the last panel, and it's playing Parson's sound effect, indicating that Parson has contacted him.



    Yeah, that was my mistake. I actually was posting about the last page, didn't know that the new one was up. Whoops! That's what I get for not refreshing and being generally tired. When I looked at it, I was all "Well that answers that question." As it seems Stanley is both in-touch, and apparently capable of disbanding.


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     Post subject: Re: Book 3 - Page 100
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    niklinna wrote:
    Overall I really like the new inking & painting, but Jack seems awfully...gaunt with those additional lines on his face. It makes him look so much older.

    Jack's looking older, Maggie's looking younger. Could be the new team, could be signamancy.

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    Suitesned wrote:
    Will Wanda allow for this unit she fought for to just be disbanded? Is there a way for her units to suddenly not be units of gobwin knob? I really wonder what that woman is thinking and how she even feels about this situation.


    I don't believe for a second that Wanda's "I can do nothing" means that she physically can't, I think it means that she won't. We already know that she considers her true loyalty to be to Fate magic rather than to Stanley, and it's pretty clear now (if it wasn't before) she's willing to throw GK under the bus rather than compromise.

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    EarwaxRock wrote:
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    Will Wanda allow for this unit she fought for to just be disbanded? Is there a way for her units to suddenly not be units of gobwin knob? I really wonder what that woman is thinking and how she even feels about this situation.


    I don't believe for a second that Wanda's "I can do nothing" means that she physically can't, I think it means that she won't. We already know that she considers her true loyalty to be to Fate magic rather than to Stanley, and it's pretty clear now (if it wasn't before) she's willing to throw GK under the bus rather than compromise.


    At the same time, back in Book 1 she had a duty to Stanley. She was going to bail on the final battle of Gobwin Knob to bring her uncroaked airforce to his aid. It took Parson's deal with Charlie to stop her.

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    I'm thinking now's a good time for Charlie to step up his eyebook-fuckery and outright alter Parson's messages before they arrive to Stanley, and vice versa. Seems like the kind of card he would have up his sleeve, and a good time to play it

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    Fcannon wrote:
    I'm thinking now's a good time for Charlie to step up his eyebook-fuckery and outright alter Parson's messages before they arrive to Stanley, and vice versa. Seems like the kind of card he would have up his sleeve, and a good time to play it


    Assuming Charlie is in any condition to do so, that would be absolutely amazingly well-played. I agree wholeheartedly.

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    I'm noticing Wanda is looking a little red skinned. I'm not sure if it's just a coloring error, or done on purpose, or maybe I'm just going crazy.

    And I'm still confused how Lilith was even able to be held captive by Charlescomm under the truce, yet Gobwin Knob is still getting penalized for her actions. How is the truce affected by her but not offering her any protection herself? I'm hoping there will be clarification on that eventually.

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    I really like the size disparity in the fourth panel between Wanda and Parson. It used to be that I'd forget just how huge Parson was supposed to be compared to the other characters.

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    Jade wrote:
    And I'm still confused how Lilith was even able to be held captive by Charlescomm under the truce, yet Gobwin Knob is still getting penalized for her actions. How is the truce affected by her but not offering her any protection herself? I'm hoping there will be clarification on that eventually.


    Lilith was taken prisoner by Jetstone, not Charlescomm. A prisoner transfer does not materially affect GK (since the unit is still a prisoner and therefore unavailable to the side no matter who holds it), so doesn't fall under the truce. Actions taken against a prisoner are not actions against the original side because prisoners are in a weird state where they don't fully belong to their side.

    When Lilith was repatriated by Waggie, she became a full member of the side again and therefore subject to the truce. If they'd only broken her bonds without using Arken-magic to do a full repatriation, then Lilith would have been a fugitive and might not have actually been covered by the truce, since fugitives form their own pseudo-side.

    Regarding natural Thinkamancy from the Tool; what we don't know is how fine-grained it is. It can be used to move units between hexes, but I don't think it will be enough to prevent an unled unit auto-engaging hostiles in the same hex (if it was, unled units auto-attacking wouldn't be a thing; it would just need the Ruler to prevent it from happening).

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     Post subject: Re: Book 3 - Page 100
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    The last panel is the highlight of this page, the only bright spot without Wanda. Magnets!

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    This page either shows Wanda disobeying a direct order,
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    That she is actually limited to perceiving through the Archons and not able to actually communicate with them nor puppeteer them. Meaning that Lillith actually brokered the prisoner deal at Jetstone on her own initiative.

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