He could, but none of them could use the crowssbows, since none of them has the Archery specialist [crossbow] special. Like Ace Hardware does.

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Maybe create a doll with said special? I wonder, whether a dollamancer can assign skills and perks to his creations. Or maybe he might have taken the skill already upon levelling or might have and arifact, that will give you that skill when worn. Many ways to cheat the system

Good catch. Not sure why they've got a pair set up outside the dirtamansion in bunkers, then.

Ah, who am I kidding. They set them up like that because of the terrifying signamancy

More then that, dollamancers can't create things out of thin air. They need materials for that. Ace had always used Cubins to do small item conjuration to create the materials.

Or perhaps a caster can always order materials popped and materialized by using the sides treasury.

I don't think so. Maggie wasn't around to link Ace and Sizemore (and there's no chance they convinced the Great Minds to help), but the guys were still able to make guns anyway. I think gun-/bullet-making is doable while unlinked... it just doesn't get specialized unless the Dollamancer has some Carnymancy available.

I never considered having Claud use the Wrench. I figured he just linked with Charlie way back when. If Claud does get near someone wielding the Wrench ("pff, he can try"), then it'd be interesting to watch... but I'm not holding my breath. I think he'll just have to do without that.



Indeed, the rockers had to use about half of their juice apiece to make their bedrock scrolls.

But now that y'all mention the raw-materials issue... I'm not sure it's ever been narrated that a Dollamancer needs someone else to conjure raw materials for said Dollamancer to shape, but such a need has been the case so far. In Ace/Cubbins' case, I chalked it up to Ace's low level, but there was also a need for Ivan to conjure a bucket of pitch for Claud (who I assume has a good level, because Charlie likes the best of the best.)

Hmm. It seems being a Stuffamancer is even more valuable than I thought.

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[raises eyebrow] [reviews the magic grid] Well, how about that. Yeah, that'll do it.

Just to see if there was anything else breakable, I reviewed the rest of the grid in case there were other disciplines that don't have Matter but seem like they should. Nope -- Dollamancy is the only one that comes close. I'd give a distant second place to Moneymancers making gems, but nobody's ever used a gem to accomplish anything physical, so that's not a problem. I guess that ruins my upcoming fanfiction* of a flying-special Moneymancer using gems to slice through windows and infiltrate buildings.

I guess some definitions are more strict than others when one identifies the disciplines that Matter.

*haha, no.

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Unfounded speculation!

1)Warlord Judy Gale was from Parson's world. Not only that, but she was L. Frank Baum's original inspiration for the Wonderful Wizard of Oz. Say, perhaps she told him her tale. This would mean that all took place before L. Frank Baum wrote the original story in 1900.

2)Judy Gale's stories about her own world are what inspired Charlie to start probing other dimensions with the arkendish. At some point between 1908-1945, he managed to pull enough information (in particular a german instruction manual) to attempt to copy the MG-08 machine gun (I pick those years because that's when the MG-08 was in service with the germans). This is also why not just anybody can properly use the "tripods", because these were his first attempt.

3) He continued to watch stupidworld, pulling additional ideas to expand his arsenal, develop shocked connections, and probably tips about how to do business and present himself. Possibly, he even noticed the strange ties between Erfworld Signamancy and Stupidworld.

4) Really, the only substantive thing I've got is that Charlie has probably been observing stupidworld for over a century.

And where are we given a reason to suppose that the Wonky Wrench (or indeed any form of Carnymancy) is needed to be able to continue applying the auto special to his guns?

Edit: Someone mentioned Weirdomancy as the property that enables the auto-specialing feature, but when Bonnie told Ace about Claud’s role in the guns’ creation (https://archives.erfworld.com/Book+3/189), it wouldn’t make sense for her to withhold the fact that Claud required the assistance of another caster to finish the task (even, or especially if the other caster was Charlie). ISTM that it also wouldn’t make sense for her not to know that fact.

A completely irresponsible speculation might be that, while Weirdomancy is necessary for that part, Claud happens to be a cross-disciplined Dollamancer, with a minor in Weirdomancy. His Signamancy certainly supports the hypothesis.

(otoh, it also wouldn’t make sense for Bonnie to withhold that fact, either)

Well if they're going to build anything other than a barricade, I'd suggest creating four weak units, so they can form an eight stack(with the little wood golem).


They could screen her while she was shootin', but I meant when they were sheltered behind whatever defensive structure they're going to build. At that point, she could be firing the rifle, while they were casting spells.


The trouble with causing a cave in is that the caves are made of bedrock, they can't magic it without carnymancy. They could try building a wall over them or something, juice allowing, but the Knobians have a counter for that in the form of their own dirtamancer.

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Maybe more tar golems, as an incapacitating counterattack option just in case the pursuers close to melee range.

Yeah, none of these theories are new, but it doesn't hurt to review the speculation periodically.

It could also be as simple as needing to be a Master Dollamancer, which Ace isn't yet.

I love the stack idea. Very warlordy thinking. But eh.. tar golems against dirtamancers? I would think they could easily disenchant enemy golems.


The Matruschka doll that Claud used to free Wanda was a wood golem. So either he had wood on him, or he was able to create the golem without needing materials, or … oh right, he had Ivan. Ivan probably created the wood (a Dirtamancer probably can, since Sizemore built stairs and created support beams in the tunnel under Portal Park, and Ivan created a spike trap with wooden spikes).

So, creating materials is probably not the problem. It has already been pointed out
that Claud probably manages to make guns without needing the wrench or being linked with Charlie. We're not sure what it takes.

Though he may have needed a Knutty Needle.

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Deanimating enemy golems, if it's possible at all, certainly costs juice and attention (during which time the attacking dirtamancers will be under fire), and might be resistable with the combination of stack bonus and leadership bonuses from both a dirtamancer and a dollamancer. Best of all, it might be a touch-range spell, and we've already seen that a tar golem's effectiveness as a glue trap is not at all contingent on it's continued animation.

So the last panel is a remembered discussion of "tactical residential architecture" during the building of Charlescomm tower.

A web search for "tactical residential architecture" turns up some interesting stuff.

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I have a question about the diagram in the middle. In what situation would CC need a vertical enfilade? Like are the Archons shooting from the ceiling? Shooting horizontally through a narrow hallway makes sense, but how is shooting from the ceiling through a narrow slit beneficial? Unless I'm misinterpreting the manual.

Also, it's kind of nice seeing the corporate signamancy of CC again: the artwork and plant, the drinks and snacks, is just very reminiscent of an office meeting room. Minus the vaulted door of course Makes me wonder if I've been unknowingly working for Charlie this whole time

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Archons and other units can fly. Eliminating stairs in favor of vertical hallways makes CC more defensible against invaders. But if you have a hallway, you need a way to defend the hallways, even if the hallway goes up and down.

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Ok, thank you! I was thinking it was a vertical shooting spot for a horizontal hallway, and I didn't see the point (at least, not with a narrow slit for shooting from). But a vertical hall makes sense for flyers. I guess I didn't understand the physical location of where the vertical enfilade was taking place.

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I just realized something. Erfworlders speak Language, which just so happens to be nearly identical to English.

How did Charlie learn German?

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Don't think he did. The English text super-imposed on the manual was Charlie speaking. If he intentionally used that manuscript (and it wasn't one of his many faces), then he was showing it off for the diagram.

While it may be true that "Enfilade" and "Defilade" don't ever appear in that german manuscript, Charlie probably learnt those words from elsewhere... like an English war-manual. Charlie doesn't ask them to understand any of the words on the manuscript (since probably not even he understands it), he is merely asking them to look at the pictures.