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Author:  Titan [ Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:45 pm ]
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New One is up.

Author:  Realeyna [ Sat Jul 01, 2017 12:27 am ]
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The next Jed! This might explain why Jed is so eager to have his portal kipi'd. He may feel/actually be incomplete without it.

I'm very pleasantly surprised to learn how much will Claud and Ivan still seem to have in state 8.2. Might this have something to do with their friendship on Erf? Maggie and Sizemore mentioned in the Book 1 Epilogues that liking one another outside a link could help them work better together inside it.

It's also interesting that making living dolls seems to be the natural inclination of any Dollamancer that sees more of Thinkamancy. Or at least the inclination of all the ones we've seen so far.

Author:  Heffenfeffer [ Sat Jul 01, 2017 12:35 am ]
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My God, I feel just like Claud. I too have had an entire planned speech interrupted by a better one liner.

Author:  Chris Goodwin [ Sat Jul 01, 2017 12:38 am ]
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Threads and strings. Not a coincidence, I think.

Author:  DirtamancerMaladict [ Sat Jul 01, 2017 12:38 am ]
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Huh, I always heard it as "Warp and Weft"

Author:  Fcannon [ Sat Jul 01, 2017 12:41 am ]
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Took embarrassingly long to realize that this was a dirtamancer-dollamancer link up like the one that made Jed. Barely clicked before Parson and Jed were brought up. Glad to see some execution on the "oldest Decisions" bit of foreshadowing. And all the thinkamancy-dollamancy exploration we've gotten with Bunny and Bill and Maggie.

Author:  DyolfKnip [ Sat Jul 01, 2017 12:43 am ]
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Looks like another key to peace on erf. Hack the towers and attached columns to provide infinite shockamancy to them, rather than casters slowly charging them up each day. Your city is now effectively impregnable.

Author:  Shai hulud [ Sat Jul 01, 2017 12:44 am ]
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Yeah, that's not going to end badly at all. =/

Author:  Keighvin1 [ Sat Jul 01, 2017 12:46 am ]
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I'm just imagining if suddenly the CC tower is an intelligent golem who decides it wants to own the nifty dish on top of its head.

Author:  Corrupt User [ Sat Jul 01, 2017 12:50 am ]
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Somehow, I think upgrading Charlie's tower is going to be a treaty violation...

Author:  TimeBot [ Sat Jul 01, 2017 12:52 am ]
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That Cloth Charlescomm sure has the Signamancy of a Dark Carnival...

Author:  GaryThunder [ Sat Jul 01, 2017 12:53 am ]
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I have significantly more hope for Ivan and Claud to survive this experience than I did previously.

Also: What in the hell? Awakening Storybro from a distance? To...what end? It sounds insane.

Author:  kotrochuko [ Sat Jul 01, 2017 12:56 am ]
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This page is incredible. Erfworld is good generally but this part is especially good.

Author:  Horatio Von Becker [ Sat Jul 01, 2017 12:58 am ]
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I'm guessing Charlie's Tower was Fated to do this. And the Arkendish will have its true wielder: a tower. Which may well go Skynet. Charlie was probably using Carnymancy to attune, and that is why he can ally with Parson without winning everything - he'll have lost most of his Archons, his resources, and so on, and the endboss will have infinite juice, the Arkendish, and possibly an omni-caster linkup. (But probably not. The Omnicaster will probably die or become its own side in Book Four.)

Author:  atteSmythe [ Sat Jul 01, 2017 1:00 am ]
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A solid plan. I think they've covered all the unknowns.

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I love this plan! I'm excited to be a part of it! Let's do it!

Author:  Caprice [ Sat Jul 01, 2017 1:01 am ]
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So, now we get to see what happens if we repeat the Jed experiment with all master-class (or above) casters, plus detailed knowledge of the portal column. I suspect the result is going to be... interesting.
I'm really hoping it turns out that all towers innately speak Hawaiian :mrgreen:
"KAHUNA KOLOHE, I WANT A WORD WITH YOU..."

And I think this update proves that the Thinkamancers have no monopoly on insight (see also the discussions on Roger's views a few pages back) Dollamancy is just as good a framework for understanding the nature of Erfworld - and probably all other branches of magic can make an equal claim.

Author:  Lipkin [ Sat Jul 01, 2017 1:02 am ]
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Man, imagine being Charlie right now. You've lost a ton of Archons, including several of those closest to you. Your reputation that you've worked so hard for has been trashed to the point where you are now forbidden from hiring from the Magic Kingdom. Your tower has been damaged, and you capability to function impaired. On all counts, it's the worst day you've had for probably thousands of turns.

Imagine going through all that, and then your tower starts talking to you. Even if it doesn't attack, it'd almost certainly be overwhelming.

Author:  kaylasdad99 [ Sat Jul 01, 2017 1:04 am ]
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Quite a relief to learn that Claud's "incorruptible" devotion to the concept of "rules" has a weakness. I was starting to be afraid that he was willing to grab the buss bars and destroy himself, Dirtamancer, and Big Think rather than create another Jed.

ETA: Hey, page 1! There ought to be a badge for that. :mrgreen:

Author:  Chiu ChunLing [ Sat Jul 01, 2017 1:04 am ]
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"Why not?"

After that whole speech and everything, I was hoping for at least a tiny bit more caution. Then again, while Claud was making an argument rather than a threat at the beginning of it, he fully intended to end it as a threat.

I guess I gotta give Wanda props on calling that one even if she was guessing.

So, is this even State 8 anymore, or something utterly beyond what the GMTTA ever theorized? And how much of it is going to end up animating CC?

Author:  ftl [ Sat Jul 01, 2017 1:08 am ]
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Wooow. Claud is convinced that the tower will obey his will but... ...Jed isn't exactly obeying Ace. He's working for GK, but not really in a master-slave kind of way.

This also leads to how Parson can croak Charlie and the game isn't over. It'll be Parson and Jed against a sentient city/tower/portal column with the Dish and infinite juice.

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