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Recall that Parson nearly went on a killing spree in Transilvito just because Maggie suffered a little abuse.

Are you for real? A prolonged sexual assault is "a little abuse"?!? :x

He forgot to include the [sarcasm] and [unreliable narrator] tags.


Nah, I didn't forget. I distinctly recall preceeding that statement with the proper //comment out "[No Sarcasm]" // tag.

Adept just quoted me out of context.
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Sure, the decrypted casters that GK has would be able to do it without having to leave things to probability in terms of what they can do, but GK also would have far less immediate reason to attack the great minds. Charlie literally just had two of his units killed, while GK and Parson would be in the middle of planning a rescue attempt if anything. Parson, even if he was evil, should still be seen as being smart enough to know that wasting juice on taking out the Minds from his casters, rather than using them to help rescue Wanda immediately, would be an enormous risk that could have made rescuing Wanda even more difficult if it had failed.

So all of this is really only explained by Roger being prejudiced against GK, and Parson by extension. He assumes that they must be to blame, and despite his claims of solving "decision trees," his logic is faulty and based in emotional sentiment. He has no reason to think that Parson would do something like this in retribution (for all of his "crimes," did Roger know him to ever be retributive?). He also has every reason to believe Charlie would, given that he and the minds are pretty much direct enemies and they literally JUST KILLED HIS UNITS!

Roger knows that Parson is likely to make huge emotional decisions. Recall that hero complex that got him into Spacerock. Plus Parson's entire reason for going after Charlie is his petty vengence, after that one time Charlie made a play for him. Roger doesn't have to know Parson, but the Warlord is clearly capable of being "retributive".
//comment out(OOC)// Recall that Parson nearly went on a killing spree in Transilvito just because Maggie suffered a little abuse.

Ah, here's where it went wrong. So either I forgot to close the combined No Sarcasm + Reliable Narrator tag (possibly resulting in the sincirety not getting through), or my SQL tags are incompatable with an HTML board.
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Recall that Parson nearly went on a killing spree in Transilvito just because Maggie suffered a little abuse.

Are you for real? A prolonged sexual assault is "a little abuse"?!? :x

Yes, hence the Out of Character tag I did, where I would then refer to evidence that Roger does not have about Parson's "Retributiveness" which was the primary subject of the section you quoted which you completely avoided. Whether Parson is justified for wanting to have his cake and eat it ontop of Bill's fat carcass is irrelevant.

Furthermore your second question is based off of a false pretence. Maggie did not suffer from a "Prolonged sexual assault" as there was nothing sexual about having your G-strings borrowed from you to create a new unit.
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He forgot to include the [sarcasm] and [unreliable narrator] tags.

Yeah, always assume that anom167 is being sarcastic, or you'll suffer serious mental trauma.

In this economy, I can't afford to use sarcasm tags.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 105
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    zilfallon wrote:
    Rather than having a magical item, it is also possible that Claud knows a bit weirdomancy. He's a master-class dollamancer, it isn't unthinkable for him to be an adept weirdomancer (or even novice, at worst).
    That also would fit his Signamancy quite well. It also explains whatever it is he's done to his eyes better than just Dollamancy.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 105
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    The Unlurked wrote:
    RVC couldn't make this worse if he set himself on fire just before entering the portal.


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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 105
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    The Unlurked wrote:
    RVC couldn't make this worse if he set himself on fire just before entering the portal.


    Hinted at previously, but I do like the idea of the heavily-foreshadowed Magic Kingdom Inferno starting with a, um... well thought out plan by RVC. Might lead to this, though.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 105
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    The epicness meter just crept up a notch.

    My only question is, does Parson even have a string?
    Or maybe his string is connected all the way back to Earth.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 105
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    alowe wrote:
    My only question is, does Parson even have a string?
    Or maybe his string is connected all the way back to Earth.

    He must, otherwise Erfworld mechanics like Thinkagrams wouldn't work at all. They were probably generated by the summoning spell.

    He probably wouldn't croak from the string severing though since his physiology wasn't originally dependent on them. I'd say the most likely outcomes are he would either work even less with Erfworld mechanics than he does now, or get banished back home.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 105
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    Anomynous 167 wrote:
    Furthermore your second question is based off of a false pretence. Maggie did not suffer from a "Prolonged sexual assault" as there was nothing sexual about having your G-strings borrowed from you to create a new unit.

    You are either reading a different comic, or seriously blind to some of what is going on.

    Maybe I shouldn't be too surprised of an Anon downplaying sexual assault though, or failing to understand what went down.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 105
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    alowe wrote:
    The epicness meter just crept up a notch.

    My only question is, does Parson even have a string?
    Or maybe his string is connected all the way back to Earth.


    I'm betting on a "King in Yellow-esque" moment where Roger runs back into the MK screaming "No strings! No strings!", while Parson stands there making Pinocchio quotes.

    After all, Parson has been kind of set up as a "terrifying eldritch abomination" several times now -- summoned by the "evil" side from a land beyond the comprehension of most, known for plans that should not work and concepts that do not follow Erfworld's "natural" laws. And he's a player (or could be considered one, at least).

    I like the idea of Roger confronting Parson, only to be driven mad by how much of Parson's existence violates everything he knows.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 105
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    Adept wrote:
    Anomynous 167 wrote:
    Furthermore your second question is based off of a false pretence. Maggie did not suffer from a "Prolonged sexual assault" as there was nothing sexual about having your G-strings borrowed from you to create a new unit.

    You are either reading a different comic, or seriously blind to some of what is going on.

    Maybe I shouldn't be too surprised of an Anon downplaying sexual assault though, or failing to understand what went down.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 105
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    carp golem wrote:
    Apologies if ninja'd, but 12 pages is too much right now.

    It has been repeatedly suggested that cutting Parson's string might catapult him back to stupidworld. This is often followed up by talk of him having to be re-summoned. Re-summoning seems to me like a somewhat clumsy way to return him to erfworld, narratively speaking.

    If he does get twanged (and I think he might) then I have a feeling we will get to see what happens when Parson reads the scroll of GTFO after arriving in Ohio.


    Earlier in this thread I said there'd be a "red string or blue?" question.

    I'm calling artwork now. There'll be a Matrix callout: Parson as Morpheus from RVC's point of view, with RVC reflected in Parson's 3d glasses.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 105
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    alowe wrote:
    The epicness meter just crept up a notch.

    My only question is, does Parson even have a string?
    Or maybe his string is connected all the way back to Earth.


    I don't think Parson has a full complement of Grandiocosmic Strings. I do, however, think he has a red string tying him to Erfworld and a blue string tying him to Stupidworld.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 105
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    wizzardman wrote:
    alowe wrote:
    The epicness meter just crept up a notch.

    My only question is, does Parson even have a string?
    Or maybe his string is connected all the way back to Earth.


    I'm betting on a "King in Yellow-esque" moment where Roger runs back into the MK screaming "No strings! No strings!", while Parson stands there making Pinocchio quotes.


    I was thinking the dude from Gamer "I've got no strings on me", pointing out that he has no player in the upcoming game and therefore no lag.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 105
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    A thought just occurred to me, Parson is here one Erf, tied to it with an earth string tugging at him too. If his string is cut whats the chances it's the right string? He might be stuck on erf and more fully enter the world, gain treasury sense and seeing stats like the natives do with nothing straining to pull him out of this world anymore.

    Or both strings get cut, leaving parson on erf but cut off from magical effects like thinkagrams and upkeep/popping food? No more senses to give or receive orders hell he might even lose his ability to connect to a side and belong to any group,

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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 105
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    Chiu ChunLing wrote:
    I suspect Jojo Carnied Roger into linking at all, and then Carnied him to modify a portion of his mind using the link, and that part of Roger's mind probably has ideas and beliefs that didn't come from Roger in the first place. But I'd tend to say that it was a portion of Roger's own string, heavily modified by Carnied Thinkamancy, rather than a part of Jojo's string.


    I'm thinking the same thing, and that RVC was Charlie/Jojo's "backdoor" mole into the GMTTA, primarily as a spy, but also ready to activate whenever Charlie decided that he needed to move against the GMTTA (for plans with a slightly longer fuse, anyway, since RVC doesn't access the Garden very often).

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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 105
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    Hi guys. First time posting, cause things are gettin' real interesting and I have nobody else that reads this comic that I can discuss them with. :P

    So, this update, a few things. Firstly, Parson does have a string. Unfortunately I can't find the update, but I'm 99% sure that in one of the text updates around when he was meeting with the Great Minds, it said that the Great Minds had agreed to leave his string alone. Ergo, he has a string.

    Second, the VCR thing; has anyone realised that VCR is going into TV? :P I wonder what movie we'll see...

    Regarding the temple, very very interesting stuff there. Not sure what's going on with Isaac; the theory that all the strings now reside in his body and he's some kind of megamind or something is a quite interesting and plausible theory. As far as what happened to the temple, I think Charlie blew it up. Ivan and Claud were wondering what the minecart was doing, and the action figure inside it. Charlie can link up with the figure and cast, though he probably didn't need to. I imagine he used the action figure and the cart to transport explosives under the temple and explode it.

    Can't wait to see what comes next!

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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 105
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    So Roger Victor Clarence jumps to conclusions here. One of the great minds who use a rigorous analytical method for carefully and logically analyzing every situation. Makes no sense.
    EDIT: Well, unless Jefftichew is manipulating him into it, but it seems unlikely that he wouldn't have taken precautions against that when working with a carnymancer. Roger doesn't seem like the trusting type to me.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 105
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    What if Parson has strings, but the strings are there to bind him, not only on Erf, but to its rules.
    You cut the strings, and suddenly Parson can ignore orders, ride dragons, walk through hex boundaries offturn, shrug of most magical effects...

    What happens when a summoned and bound eldritch abomination is no longer bound, but is not banished?

    Hell, he might have infinite hitpoints and super strength for all we know (he's a human and everyone else is a wargaming miniature).

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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 105
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    And then he expands to his true size, as seen here. So he's, what? A hundred or so hexes tall?

    That might not work out so great for anyone in TV when it happens.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 105
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    So this explains the note that Roger gave to Jojo. Except, how did he think to do it when he was in eyemancer territory and right next to Parson Gotti?

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