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 Post subject: Book 4 - Page 54
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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 54
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    I'm betting the odds shown were very close to, if not, 1.00 (100%). Props to Benjamin for covering, though. Keeping Hamster from knowing the results maintains its value as a bargaining chip.

    Benny's got a good poker face. I think he's a little intoxicated, which might help him stay mellow. I can't imagine looking at something on my arm telling me I'm going to get dead, odds are, if I don't cough it up and not rip it off and hand it over then and there, prisoner-status-of-the-recipient-be-damned.

    ...can a prisoner have gear? Is that wholly up to the captor?


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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 54
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    Hrrm. Well it looks like that, as it involved magic, the decision to kill or not kill Charlie was Wanda's choice to make. Hamster exceeded his authority.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 54
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    I think that the Bracer is an instrument of Fate.

    Also - if Benjamin had not asked, would the outcome have been the same?

    (I think it's saying 1.00 or whatever the "definitely" answer is. At least for a minute. I posted later with a different theory.)

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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 54
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    Well Parson... like the old adage goes, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

    You took a shot on that "fate of the bracer" line and it looks like you hit a home run.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 54
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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 54
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    Whispri wrote:
    Hrrm. Well it looks like that, as it involved magic, the decision to kill or not kill Charlie was Wanda's choice to make. Hamster exceeded his authority.

    What are you talking about? Croaking a dude to end his side is as military an action as you can get.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 54
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    "flickered"

    Why do I suddenly remember Parson asking if he can cast DSPW?

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    “Run this same calculation ten times in a row. Go.”

    The blue numbers in the bracer began blinking. The 0.0 was a dimmer blue as it blinked on and off, but the other number was superimposed over it: .980104773
    A 98% chance of casting success.
    He looked up at Antium. There was a lot more smoke in the room now, and Parson‘s eyes were stinging. The bracer was lying. It was telling him he didn‘t have a chance. Why? So he wouldn‘t try to cast Charlie‘s spell...

    “Jojo said it‘s free will versus Fate,” he said. “But I‘m really just getting railroaded by two different GMs here...."

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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 54
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    100% if I had to guess

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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 54
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    So.. are we taking Quatloos bets as to what was displayed?

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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 54
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    Mmmmm.... So Parson is now playing with Fate... And Fate is answering. This could be the very first step into a very dangerous road, I think.

    Edited: Typo. My corrector changed "Fate" for "Facebook".


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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 54
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    My best guess as to the result is that it was a high number that was less than 1.00. There are ways that the bracer could get back to Parson without Benny dying. It's just that the ways involving his death tend to be simpler.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 54
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    Ozamataz Buckshank wrote:
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    Hrrm. Well it looks like that, as it involved magic, the decision to kill or not kill Charlie was Wanda's choice to make. Hamster exceeded his authority.

    What are you talking about? Croaking a dude to end his side is as military an action as you can get.

    It involved magic, the battle of Lilith's castle was a magical fight, ergo it was her decision. That was why she was able to command the battle against Charlie's archons in the magick kingdom. And since we've just learned that even a chief warlord has to defer to a chief caster in magical matters, well, what other conclusion can be drawn?

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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 54
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    Seriously, of all the lies Parson told, that's the one they call bluff on? Parson wasn't even trying to be convincing, just offering up some (somewhat self serving) advice.

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    My best guess as to the result is that it was a high number that was less than 1.00. There are ways that the bracer could get back to Parson without Benny dying. It's just that the ways involving his death tend to be simpler.

    Kind of what I was thinking.

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    PleaseDontYellAtMe wrote:
    "flickered"

    Why do I suddenly remember Parson asking if he can cast DSPW?

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    “Run this same calculation ten times in a row. Go.”

    The blue numbers in the bracer began blinking. The 0.0 was a dimmer blue as it blinked on and off, but the other number was superimposed over it: .980104773
    A 98% chance of casting success.
    He looked up at Antium. There was a lot more smoke in the room now, and Parson‘s eyes were stinging. The bracer was lying. It was telling him he didn‘t have a chance. Why? So he wouldn‘t try to cast Charlie‘s spell...

    “Jojo said it‘s free will versus Fate,” he said. “But I‘m really just getting railroaded by two different GMs here...."

    I actually thought the same thing at first glance, but it's hard to say for sure what happened here. Without seeing the way the display reacted on the whole, I'd imagine that it just showed the actual chances, probably less than 1.00 but much higher than a guy like Ben would feel safe taking.

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    Yet another calculation by Benjamin we don't know the whole story about. He's whispered one question (and the forum went mad over his possible phrasing) before receiving an answer, and now we know the question, but not the answer. Ben might be asking questions that are too open to interpretation, and getting whatever answer Fate wants to give him. Questions like "Can 14 archons take GK's garrison" are too specific to fiddle with. Parson asked for his odds of casting the scroll of GTFO, and the bracer gave TWO answers: one for casting the spell if Fate didn't interfere, and his 0% odds of casting it once Fate dropped a beam on his head. "Will I croak if Parson doesn't get his bracer back" is too vague and Fate is changing the number.

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    Well, Benjamin sounds convinced, and if he's convinced that Parson is Fated to have the bracer back, what else could he want to happen next but to ally with GK and ensure Parson gets the bracer in a way that doesn't harm TV? This is going to be a very interesting talk with Don if he's changed his mind...

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    Oh, tricky devil. Then again, going by some of the things he wrote, I guess BF could constitute something of a "magnificent troll".

    "Three men can keep a secret, if two of them are dead" that sort of thing.

    Also, I think that the number he saw was... not 100%, but fairly high enough. Otherwise he'd probably have called Parson out on that right there.

    Then again, if he wants maximum effect, he'd probably announce the number in front of Don to force Parson to make an account of himself being wrong without a chance (as far as BF knows) to rehearse what he/they are going to say.

    Which would be a mistake, because if I were Parson, rehearsing what they're going to say would be what I'd be doing with Jack right now on the way up.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 54
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    Note: He didn't ask the bracer what the probability of him NOT returning it resulting in his demise would have been. The probability he saw was 1.0, and would have been in either case - everyone dies eventually.

    It's a bit of a liberal interpretation of the question, but fate would be rather motivated to make sure it was what the bracer used, to further its own agenda.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 54
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    I honestly can't think of anynthing that bracer could be displaying in response to that question that would be worth not showing to the audience right now.
    It's not like answer to Benjamin's question is "Charlie is really a fallen titan"

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