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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 14
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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 14
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    Dang, Bill. Those two-way strings are kind of a bitch, huh? :D

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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 14
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    So, it seems like that was indeed a Bunny doll we saw stashed away back on page 154.

    I wonder if Maggie will be able to teach Bunny the trick to pulling those strings from the other side.


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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 14
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    Wow, Vanna is a realy pro to get Bill to actually be chatty, and she's even smiling!

    Or is this a Spookism camaradery thing, what with the little toy cart she's helping him assemble?

    Edit: Wait, why is Bunny sleeping in a bed and not a coffin / "Sleeping Box"?

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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 14
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    Love it.

    Maggie doing some awesome work. I wonder what Bill and Vanna (Jojo) are up to.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 14
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    So, it seems the Bunny doll is tied to whatever led to Bunny’s baddie status. I’m curious if this may be the end result of a caster link gone wrong. Bill & Bunny linked to make the doll, Bill then enacted his own agenda with the doll to force Bunny into spilling secrets? Can’t do much but speculate, but with Ponzi as her lover and Bill perverting the intended use of the doll under Don’s command I could see that leading to an attempted coup d’état.

    Now I’m going to be racking my brain all weekend trying to figure out what a Dollamancer and a Turnamancer would want with a tiny wagon…

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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 14
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    "knowledge you have acquired you are not aware of yet"

    Feels like something for which the Germans would have a compound noun. :)

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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 14
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    Templar wrote:
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    Feels like something for which the Germans would have a compound noun. :)


    Probably something on the lines of "unbewussterworbeneinsicht".

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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 14
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    A very interesting reveal about TV's thinkamancer. It's also an interesting comparison between the two thinkamancers. I think Maggie is going to succeed where she failed.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 14
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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 14
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    I think the most interesting thing to note here is that the implication seems to be that Bunny didn't intend to betray the great minds, but instead was forced to. Also by extension this might mean she's only really a baddie because she's still compromised. I don't understand the connection here with betraying them for reasons of love. Bunny's backstory seems to be shaping into something quite complicated indeed.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 14
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    The_Author_Is_Dead wrote:
    A very interesting reveal about TV's thinkamancer. It's also an interesting comparison between the two thinkamancers. I think Maggie is going to succeed where she failed.


    Let's hope so. Maybe Bunny's love for the prince of TV somehow compromised her, possibly, and kept her from succeeding?

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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 14
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    So...

    Bunny loved Ponzi and maybe she linked with Bill to make the Bunny-doll to help Ponzi with his coup. But Bill cheated Bunny and told Don everything. Don disbanded Ponzi, thus ending the coup.

    Bill is loyal to Don and he is capable of controlling Bunny. Both Bunny and Don are aware of this. Thus, Don's alleged confidence in Bunny is indeed confidence in Bill (who is in Don's good side, as his position in the table acknowledges)... And a very evil comentary to begin with.

    Bunny's love for Ponzi costed her her loved one and the few freedoms which a unit has in Erfworld.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 14
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    Interesting...I wonder WHY Bunny can't intervene to help Maggie.

    Is it because she is forbidden, or is it because the Great Minds literally took away her ability to do that type of Thinkamancy?

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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 14
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    Father Prime wrote:
    Now I’m going to be racking my brain all weekend trying to figure out what a Dollamancer and a Turnamancer would want with a tiny wagon…


    Possibly trying to figure out how to easily ship a heavy unit. Knock Parson out, put him in a cart, cover him up to be discreet, drag him through the TV portal to the MK and then over to Charlescomm.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 14
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    Father Prime wrote:
    Now I’m going to be racking my brain all weekend trying to figure out what a Dollamancer and a Turnamancer would want with a tiny wagon…


    To take a guess, since the wagon frame is likely Dollamancy and the wheels are Turnamancy it would seem that Vanna and Bill are working together on a small project. I doubt it has any special significance beyond being a task that the two of them can bond over. So while I don't think we're going to see Chekhov's Wagon any time soon, it's important because it demonstrates the two casters working together and talking shop. Which is exactly what Vanna needs both to gain Bill's trust and to subtly direct the conversation towards other Turnamancy topics that might be relevant. Namely, Parson.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 4 - Page 14
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    Father Prime wrote:
    Now I’m going to be racking my brain all weekend trying to figure out
    what a Dollamancer and a Turnamancer would want with a tiny wagon…

    I guess self-driving toy-cart, much like that self-driving paddleboat.

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    Father Prime wrote:
    Now I’m going to be racking my brain all weekend trying to figure out what a Dollamancer and a Turnamancer would want with a tiny wagon…


    A car/transport to send Parson and co to Charlie in? A wagon that can move really, really far (multiple move "turns")? Since both disciplines are Spookism that is Motion-based?

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    Looks like we get to learn more about Turnamancy vehicles.

    Can a Thinkamancer train to remember dream memories without using spells?

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