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 Post Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 6:12 am 
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     Post subject: Re: Book 5 - Prologue 17
     Post Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 3:16 pm 
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    2. Nestly has an exceptionally late natural turn.


    Can't be this. They're an original side and original sides have the earliest turns.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 5 - Prologue 17
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    Degnanigans wrote:
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    2. Nestly has an exceptionally late natural turn.


    Can't be this. They're an original side and original sides have the earliest turns.


    Archezoa was the original side, that side ended when King Archibald Type attempted to use the portal...

    Nestly formed later, when a feral popped warlord (Paige Turner) survived the jaguars and found the empty capital site.


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     Post subject: Re: Book 5 - Prologue 17
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    Is it possible that new sides get added in front of the initiative order rather than the back?

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     Post subject: Re: Book 5 - Prologue 17
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    silverplated wrote:
    Is it possible that new sides get added in front of the initiative order rather than the back?

    https://wiki.erfworld.com/Turn#Turn_Order
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    The natural turn order is determined by the age of the side, with older sides going first. [Erf-b3-p150]

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     Post subject: Re: Book 5 - Prologue 17
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    I fixed the wiki page - the cited page actually clearly establishes that the order is oldest last, not oldest first, assuming it is accurate that alliance turns occur on the latest turn of any ally in the alliance.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 5 - Prologue 17
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    silverplated wrote:
    Is it possible that new sides get added in front of the initiative order rather than the back?


    Yes, that is how it appears to work.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 5 - Prologue 17
     Post Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 8:27 am 
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    quindraco wrote:
    I fixed the wiki page - the cited page actually clearly establishes that the order is oldest last, not oldest first, assuming it is accurate that alliance turns occur on the latest turn of any ally in the alliance.

    I believe you are mistaken. We've been over this many times before, in past threads.

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    Faq always took its turn in the late afternoon. This would have been true whether or not they were a part of the Second Royal Crown Coalition, because they were the youngest side in this part of the world.


    Turns start at dawn, for whoever goes first. Faq isn't starting at dawn -- they're starting in the late afternoon. They're going last. Because they're the youngest side in the battlespace.

    These sentences clarify that the youngest side always goes last, whether it's in an alliance or not.

    Here's the part that I think is confusing you:

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    For ancient kingdoms like Jetstone and Transylvito, going last created a number of strategic hardships, but for Faq it hardly mattered.


    You need to read this sentence in the context provided by the previous sentence. Jetstone and TV are going last because they're in the Coalition, not because they're ancient. The whole Coalition is going last, because Faq is in it.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 5 - Prologue 17
     Post Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 1:34 am 
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    Also Charlescomm. Probably the oldest side known, they take their turn before Gobwin Knob, which is younger.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 5 - Prologue 17
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    Jaxad0127 wrote:
    Also Charlescomm. Probably the oldest side known, they take their turn before Gobwin Knob, which is younger.

    Charlie could be the oldest unit, but Charlescomm is not the oldest side. He was previously ruler of Efbaum, before founding Charlescomm. And prior to Stanley, Gobwin Knob was a royal side, which tend to have long lineages. It would not surprise me to learn that Gobwin Knob existed before the founding of Charlescomm.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 5 - Prologue 17
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    Ok, I know this isn't the best place to post this, but I saw the latest site news from Rob and there doesn't seem to be anywhere to post in that forum for me to speak on this there.

    Also, I couldn't find any kind of 'contact us' function on the website to give me a way to get a hold of him.

    I have an idea that I believe will be helpful to Rob and his family and Erfworld. I put my contact information in my profile so that he can get a hold of me if he wishes to. I marked it as 'private' but I'm hoping that as the web admin he'll be able to see it anyway.

    I also put my idea in the 'About' section of my profile, and I marked that 'private' also.

    *** - OK, everything in my profile that I saved didn't save. I just looked at it and everything I changed is blank again. Does anyone know how I can get a hold of Rob?

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     Post subject: Re: Book 5 - Prologue 17
     Post Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 12:29 am 
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    What is going on?

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     Post subject: Re: Book 5 - Prologue 17
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    Menas wrote:
    Ok, I know this isn't the best place to post this, but I saw the latest site news from Rob and there doesn't seem to be anywhere to post in that forum for me to speak on this there.

    Also, I couldn't find any kind of 'contact us' function on the website to give me a way to get a hold of him.

    I have an idea that I believe will be helpful to Rob and his family and Erfworld. I put my contact information in my profile so that he can get a hold of me if he wishes to. I marked it as 'private' but I'm hoping that as the web admin he'll be able to see it anyway.

    I also put my idea in the 'About' section of my profile, and I marked that 'private' also.

    *** - OK, everything in my profile that I saved didn't save. I just looked at it and everything I changed is blank again. Does anyone know how I can get a hold of Rob?

    I've contacted him by direct messaging the Erfworld facebook page on a number of occasions. He used to respond within a day or so, but I don't know if he's still checking it regularly with all the stuff he's having to deal with right now.

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    You'll have to be more specific.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 5 - Prologue 17
     Post Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 9:26 am 
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    Eva wrote:
    What is going on?

    If you haven't done so recently, be sure to check the main Erfworld page.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 5 - Prologue 17
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    Lipkin wrote:
    Menas wrote:
    Ok, I know this isn't the best place to post this, but I saw the latest site news from Rob and there doesn't seem to be anywhere to post in that forum for me to speak on this there.

    Also, I couldn't find any kind of 'contact us' function on the website to give me a way to get a hold of him.

    I have an idea that I believe will be helpful to Rob and his family and Erfworld. I put my contact information in my profile so that he can get a hold of me if he wishes to. I marked it as 'private' but I'm hoping that as the web admin he'll be able to see it anyway.

    I also put my idea in the 'About' section of my profile, and I marked that 'private' also.

    *** - OK, everything in my profile that I saved didn't save. I just looked at it and everything I changed is blank again. Does anyone know how I can get a hold of Rob?

    I've contacted him by direct messaging the Erfworld facebook page on a number of occasions. He used to respond within a day or so, but I don't know if he's still checking it regularly with all the stuff he's having to deal with right now.



    Thank you sir. I'll try that.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 5 - Prologue 17
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    I once read this comic very regularly, since Book 1.

    IMO it's gone off the rails. 17 prologue strips should be a red flag regarding story progression.

    I still check in every once in a while hoping the story will start again. It's been a very long time, it feels, I've been doing that, disappointed each time I come here and see "Prologue" rather than getting back on track and telling the story left incomplete by the previous books.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 5 - Prologue 17
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    prowl wrote:
    I once read this comic very regularly, since Book 1.

    IMO it's gone off the rails. 17 prologue strips should be a red flag regarding story progression.

    I still check in every once in a while hoping the story will start again. It's been a very long time, it feels, I've been doing that, disappointed each time I come here and see "Prologue" rather than getting back on track and telling the story left incomplete by the previous books.

    You can stop checking in, as there won't be updates until around 2020. The creative team has both been dealing with very serious personal issues, as well as completely overhauling the art style. They are transitioning to a 3d rendered model, which will take a lot of time to set up, but should hopefully massively decrease strip production time in the future. The numerous prologues were to buy time, but even those became too difficult to put out with everything else going on.

    I understand your frustration, and share it. But Erfworld is a massive undertaking on the best of days. I suggest putting the comic from your mind until the new year. It sucks, but unfortunately real life sometimes gets in the way of things we love.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 5 - Prologue 17
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    ATTN: Red

    Why is this showing up as the third item on the home page? This is two months old; there are nearly a dozen items that are more recent which are showing up *after* this item. It's booping with my ability to detect actual updates from Rob...

    (I mean, if you're manipulating the order to keep the last story update in the top three... I guess I kinda get the motivation; my preference is just for strict chronological order.)

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     Post subject: Re: Book 5 - Prologue 17
     Post Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 3:58 pm 
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    That's exactly the case. The latest update is forced to stay within the top 3 posts / above the fold. Otherwise the order is indeed chronological.

    Well, there is the almost-exception that fan submissions are re-dated to the date they're approved to the front page. Otherwise either the display dates can be out of order or it might get approved 3 rows down depending on when the creator originally created the post.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 5 - Prologue 17
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    We can all pretend that whoever's job it is to end turn for the current side is AFK.

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