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     Post subject: Re: Book 3 - Page 299
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    Regarding the people who did not like the way Rob handled Jeds speech, I for one liked the translation after the Jed's nameing scheme, otherwise I would have had to look up most of them which would have interrupted my reading and immersion.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 3 - Page 299
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    So Charlie paid 17 mil (+expenses) for a spell that effectively got countered. To the new ally of his archenemy. Ha bummer! Perhaps Shirley has a flowerpower-pacifier somewhere...

    I like this update with Jed and some more insight into the field of date-a-mancy. Can it be Rob is taking hints/suggestions from the forum? I got the impression that the predictamancy of the forum has increased in accuracy for the past 4-5 updates.

    I wonder how Jed is giving juice to the decrypted units via upkeep strings though as they don't have upkeep though. And what happened to the mathemancy-bracer?

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     Post subject: Re: Book 3 - Page 299
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    Since Deisaac is spamming towers in all the capital sides, what are we going to see for Transylvito? Charlie gets Shirley, a tower that's vaguely like his mother, Jillian gets a tower that looks like the goofball character of a buddy comedy, Stanley gets a laid-back Easter Island head, but what does Transylvito get? Danny DeVito?

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     Post subject: Re: Book 3 - Page 299
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    Free Radical wrote:
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    Sometimes the difficulty is intended, though; as in Burgess's A Clockwork Orange, where Burgess deliberately invents a dialect in order to transform violence porn into a linguistic adventure. If the spoilers have to be done, Rob is better off using annotations, since the parentheses remove the choice from the reader.

    I thought the stuff in brackets actually fit really well. It seemed to emulate the style of telling a mythological story, which went very well with the voice of Jed.

    "Big Man, who was Parson." That's a neat turn of phrase. And it lets all the other stuff in brackets that came after it feel like we're listening to a story told in a strong accent, with random foreign-language words which the story-teller then has to remember to explain to us.

    Annotations would lose that feeling, and with so many words to be annotated would besides that probably make it just about unreadable.


    I agree. I read the parentheses as asides spoken by Jed himself since he knows in this context that he's telling this story to an audience that might not understand all these terms without explanation. I didn't personally feel it took anything away as he didn't repeat the explanations with each use. It seemed like something that quite naturally could happen in telling a story like this.

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    Lipkin wrote:
    I just got it. The joke has been staring us in the face.

    May the Source be with you.


    Which is actually-- intended or not-- a direct reference to Quark, the 70's sci-fi parody TV series starring Richard Benjamin. Which deliberately employed that very catchphrase.

    Though given the nature of the series' parody, I always thought that "May the Farce be with you" would have been a better choice...

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    Inst wrote:
    I notice that no one has bitten my 100 Shmucker offer for a high-end photoshop of Tuesday's comic. How much does Erfworld.com want in order to completely Jedspeak today's comic; i.e, remove non-Jed terminology and the parenthetical explanations?

    I do love a challenge. Don't worry about the Shmuckers. It's not perfect and it's not high res, but it should suit your purposes.
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    Jed can see the strings. Not just the ones the Thinkamancers can see, but ALL the strings.
    And he used this to cast a powerful Dateamancy spell via Juice he conjured from outside his side's access pool, and instantly transferred into specifically targeted units hundreds or even thousands of hexes apart, in order for it to be expended - without their conscious knowledge - into their Dateamanacy strings in order to prevent Parson's link to Earth from pulling him away. And he did this not with knowledge he popped with, but because he learned how. Which means he can self-improve.

    This is what every side in Erfworld is about to have.
    And it only scratches the surface of what's possible.

    People are going to look back on this Turn as the day everything broke. The Deus Ex Castrum update.

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    I'll be darned. It was Jed.

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    Woah, this is awesome.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 3 - Page 299
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    So... the solution is not permanent, is it?

    It seems that if ever the Erfworlders stop caring about Parson, he will be launched into space.

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    Braininthejar3 wrote:
    So... the solution is not permanent, is it?

    It seems that if ever the Erfworlders stop caring about Parson, he will be launched into space.


    Thats a possibility. However, we do not know what exactly replaced the original summoning spell. It might reinstate itself next turn with general turn start refresh. Or Jed has to replace it (or has already replaced it) permanently with something which counters the presumably still existing pull from stupidworld, a replacement which takes upkeep, either trough paid or unpaid juice.

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    Merilynne wrote:
    Inst wrote:
    I notice that no one has bitten my 100 Shmucker offer for a high-end photoshop of Tuesday's comic. How much does Erfworld.com want in order to completely Jedspeak today's comic; i.e, remove non-Jed terminology and the parenthetical explanations?

    I do love a challenge. Don't worry about the Shmuckers. It's not perfect and it's not high res, but it should suit your purposes.
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    Missed exactly one Parson. And sorry to say, notions of "friendship is magic" make me sick and this update is now officially readable. Thanks for the help!

    P.S. A few kaulas are missing as well; search for rope. The Parson is where Zhopa makes Parson a basket; Kaula is where Kapitaka Akua doesn't make a rope from only one string.

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    tanonev wrote:
    So if a sentient tower is willing and able to do this much for its side, under what circumstances is a side ever going to be conquerable again?


    That is not a logical line of thought to follow, which I'll explain.

    1. It is directly obvious that while the towers will share some similarities, they have different personalities. Quite different from Think-a-like.

    2. Jed did this in retribution to Charlie's cheat, and Shirley (Charlie's own tower) also doesn't like cheating. However, maybe after seeing Vanna beaten she will make exceptions. Again these towers are characters.

    3. Towers are incentivized NOT to cheat by the "big price" that they risk having to pay in doing so.

    So we'll still see war, it'll just be different. If anything the main point of the towers is so all sides can engage war in accordance to the will of the "Source." But as we already see with Jed the Towers will not likely do a perfect job of this.

    Also it is clearly a given that Parson will out-cheat the towers in the end as that is what he is designed to do.

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    Madhattan wrote:
    So Charlie paid 17 mil (+expenses) for a spell that effectively got countered. To the new ally of his archenemy.
    Yes, but it might turn out to have been worth it in the end, anyway. Jed's last comment about answering for his crime is pretty ominous. Besides, it isn't as though Charlie is hurting for cash, even now.

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    Okay, so I have a question to all my fellow readers:

    Sure, Jed gave Parson and a bunch of units Mana (Juice? Which might break Erfworld since some of these units don't normally have Juice?) so they they could pull him back to Erfworld with their... Thoughts?

    And Jed made it plenty clear that Parson pulling alone isn't enough. Jed didn't snap the opposite cord - the cord linking parson with Columbus, Ohio.

    And that cord is still friggin tense, right? Once everyone's "mana" runs out, won't he just casually rise up into the sky as tension balance breaks...?

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    Sometimes it should.

    Joke, sadly. I know, I was disappointed too.

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    J wrote:
    Okay, so I have a question to all my fellow readers:

    Sure, Jed gave Parson and a bunch of units Mana (Juice? Which might break Erfworld since some of these units don't normally have Juice?) so they they could pull him back to Erfworld with their... Thoughts?

    And Jed made it plenty clear that Parson pulling alone isn't enough. Jed didn't snap the opposite cord - the cord linking parson with Columbus, Ohio.

    And that cord is still friggin tense, right? Once everyone's "mana" runs out, won't he just casually rise up into the sky as tension balance breaks...?


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    So... the solution is not permanent, is it?

    It seems that if ever the Erfworlders stop caring about Parson, he will be launched into space.


    Thats a possibility. However, we do not know what exactly replaced the original summoning spell. It might reinstate itself next turn with general turn start refresh. Or Jed has to replace it (or has already replaced it) permanently with something which counters the presumably still existing pull from stupidworld, a replacement which takes upkeep, either trough paid or unpaid juice.


    Jed's intervention held Parson back this turn. That much is known. The speculation about everything else is open.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 3 - Page 299
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    themunck wrote:
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    Joke, sadly. I know, I was disappointed too.

    Yeah, it was obviously not a real thing. In order to be real enough to fool people, it should have been done on the other side, so "COLLEGE OF..." would start out properly aligned, and then the last letter overflows onto the brick wall.

    Starting out on the brick wall just doesn't make any sense.

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    I haven't gone through all of the comments, so excuse me if someone has thought of this already.

    So there are strings which attach units to their world. For the summoning spell to work, it had to be more powerful than whatever attachments the summoned warlord has to their own world. It probably helps that Parson was expressing his desire to live in a world like Erfworld at the time the spell was cast.

    Since the spell was broken, the only thing holding Parson to Erfworld is the Date-a-mancy attachments he's formed. But that doesn't mean the attachments to Stupidworld aren't still pulling. Or... being pulled.

    For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. If Parson won't be pulled to Stupidworld... maybe a bit of Stupidworld will be pulled to him? It does seem like a good lead in to Parson's gaming friends finally showing up.

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