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Yeah, that's one of my favorites too. Still hoping to see her again.

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     Post Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:55 pm 
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    I hope so too, but i dont think it would work. Because of the situation it doesnt look too good.
    3 options;

    A) Dead in a burning city (most likely)

    B) Ordered to leave city as Charlie/Vanna turned the tables (improbable, almost impossible)

    C) Decrypted. (Maybe, but would contradict decryption rules.)

    Honestly, it was just a great chapter. Perfect storytelling.

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     Post Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:34 pm 
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    Tsjoff wrote:
    I hope so too, but i dont think it would work. Because of the situation it doesnt look too good.
    3 options;

    A) Dead in a burning city (most likely)

    B) Ordered to leave city as Charlie/Vanna turned the tables (improbable, almost impossible)

    C) Decrypted. (Maybe, but would contradict decryption rules.)

    Honestly, it was just a great chapter. Perfect storytelling.


    How would Mary getting decrypted contradict decryption rules? As I read it, she could have been either in the group raised first to take bodies to the portal room(and thus still garrison in Spacerock), or in the group raised in the magic kingdom(mostly dusted, a few captured and even a few of those surviving with Lilith and Artemis, still prisoners).

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     Post Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:44 am 
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    Because as i understand it she was stuck in the wall section of Jetstone when the dragons started burning everything. Jetstone became Inferno and everyone got killed except the ones who escaped via portal. Still, I hope to see her again in the story.

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     Post Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 3:15 pm 
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    Tsjoff wrote:
    Because as i understand it she was stuck in the wall section of Jetstone when the dragons started burning everything. Jetstone became Inferno and everyone got killed except the ones who escaped via portal. Still, I hope to see her again in the story.


    Mary was a garrison unit, but posted on the outer walls of the city(of Spacerock, not Jetstone), not in the garrison itself(https://archives.erfworld.com/Book+2/160). You can see Mary with her white-streaked hair in panel 3 of the next page, with the green of outside the city behind her in both panels 3 and 4(https://archives.erfworld.com/Book%202/161).

    Sylvia only set fire to the garrison building, not the whole city of Spacerock(https://archives.erfworld.com/Book+2/174), and when Sizemore eventually did his firefighting he only had to put out flames on the garrison building, not the entire city(https://archives.erfworld.com/Book%202/203).

    In any case, there was nobody left on the outer walls by that point, since Jetstone soldiers either left in a column as ordered by Tramennis, or took part in the attack on the garrison building with Ace and Downer to get Slately's ditto to the throne room. Disappearing weapons make it unclear if there was archery in either group(https://archives.erfworld.com/Book+2/184).

    Despite the troops that left, and those bodies consumed entirely by fire, there were "nearly three hundred usable bodies in the city" according to Wanda's senses(https://archives.erfworld.com/Book%202/203, in panel 10). Three dozen "troops" were Decrypted along with a few knights and a warlord or two. These took the other bodies to the portal, but may have included archery and Mary(https://archives.erfworld.com/Book+2/204).

    I didn't see any Jetstone archery in the battles to take the throne, but those croaked in that assault, taken through the portal as corpses, and then Decrypted in the Magic Kingdom included some archery units(https://archives.erfworld.com/Book+2/206), so there's enough wiggle room for Mary to have departed as a living unit of Jetstone, or to have croaked with Ace and Downer and then been Decrypted either in the city of Spacerock or in the Magic Kingdom.


    And, on a note barely related to the original topic, below I've calculated Mary's chances:

    Tramennis when healed implied there were about 1500 Jetstone units in the city before splitting up into the column that left and the group that made for the throne(https://archives.erfworld.com/Book%202/176). Without any hard numbers, I'd guess half of those left and half stayed, so about 300 corpses of 750 troops were still intact enough to be Decrypted, only about 40% of those attacking. So about a 60% chance of a 50% chance for a total 30% chance that Mary was part of the garrison attack but burned up into an unDecryptable body.

    Three dozen out of about three hundred is 12% chance of being in the garrison group with Antium, but Mary's chances of being in that group are actually 12% of 40%(Decrypted) of 50%(not left with Tramennis) or about 2.4% of her total chances.

    All other Decryptable corpses were taken through the portal to the Magic Kingdom before being Decrypted there, and the vast majority of those 300 minus 36ish units were dusted in the eventual Charlie foxtrot. Standing units were scarce by the end when Parson ordered all remaining Gobwin Knob units to flee to a random portal and surrender(https://archives.erfworld.com/Book+3/140) and frankly the odds of any unit being able to do so and surviving that surrender are too slim to be worthwhile considering, so we'll say any uncaptured have been dusted.

    Therefore only nine units remained of the Magic Kingdom contingent, all captured(https://archives.erfworld.com/Book+3/141): Wanda, Artemis, Shawn Bawn, three archons, and three other units. Buck Nugget later cacked two of those, leaving only one on the very end of the lineup(nearest the Dirtamansion) who could possibly be Mary(https://archives.erfworld.com/Book%204/108), and frankly that requires some squinting at the art, imagining there's a white streak in long black hair when the three units seem to me to have short brown, long blond, and long brown hair. Even with art fudginess, that's one unit out of the original 1500, so generously about 0.1% total chance it's Mary. It'd be a cool retconjuration, but nowhere near as likely as other options.


    So, Mary's chances are 50% still alive and marched away somewhere in the side of Jetstone, 30% croaked and burned, 2.4% croaked then Decrypted in the city of Spacerock and still surviving as a unit of Gobwin Knob, 17.5% croaked then Decrypted in the Magic Kingdom and dusted there, with a tiny 0.1% chance she's the only unnamed prisoner left in front of the Dirtamansion.

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