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 Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 98
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I'm... I dunno. Ambivalent about this update. I guess we'll see where we end up, and then I'll know.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 98
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    drachefly wrote:
    I'm... I dunno. Ambivalent about this update. I guess we'll see where we end up, and then I'll know.

    Its more battle. Sort of what we were told would happen by Downer. The front line dies first. Then Downer. Then the king.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 98
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    :D

    So he IS a Downer! Called it! :D

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 98
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    Housellama wrote:
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    Ziggy played guitar, but Al kept walking into Sam Beckett's virtual reality spouting stats and probabilities from Ziggy, the computer. Definitely a Quantum Leap reference, not Bowie.

    In a rare event, I gotta agree with Kreistor on this one. The question is... who's debt is being paid?
    No, it's a Bowie reference too I think, as in Ziggy Stardust

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 98
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    As far as the debt goes, it's for croaking Lady Artemis with that flat-on-his-back, straight-up shot.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 98
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    Or possibly for hitting Count Downer in the back, only to be hit in the back himself.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 98
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    I'm pretty sure its repayment for Sylvia's unnatural luck.

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    Brutal. And Messy.

    This is war.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 98
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    Love this page; very dramatic. Surely all this has to be resolved soon, though!


    eeeedit: Also, in context, and now I'm looking for it, Wanda's skull-with-Heroine-Bud logo is so much more meaningful, and about a thousand times more sinister.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 98
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    I though all the hobgobwin were promoted to heavy. panel 12
    http://www.erfworld.com/book-2-archive/ ... -12-04.jpg

    http://www.erfworld.com/book-2-archive/ ... -12-14.jpg to me it looks like they've gained a belly, but I could just be seeing what I want to see

    Panel 1, the hobgobwin doesn't look heavy to me.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 98
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    I think the heavy knights were implied to be muscle bound hulks in two of the text updates.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 98
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    New avatar time!

    Alas, poor captain Archer. Yer cool head and impossibly steady aim will be missed.

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    I officially want Sylvia to die now. Her ideas are demonstrably worse than Stanley's!


    How?

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 98
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    It could be both a Bowie reference and a Quantum Leap reference. Remember that Bowie was a Changeamancer in Unaroyal. We don't know where Archer came from before being decrypted. He could have been a Unaroyal unit, and Bowie could have been known as Ziggy, or could have had another person named Ziggy who was special to Archer and to Bowie. There's plenty of room for the Ziggy reference to have numerous pop culture aspects. Heck, if Ziggy were, say, Bowie's "lackey" and also assigned to keep tabs on Archer through some sort of changeamancy version of communication, I would imagine Ziggy would look like a combination of this and this.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 98
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    It's also possible that naming the computer in Quantum Leap "Ziggy" was itself a Bowie reference to begin with.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 98
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    The Ziggy reference is as much a reference to Ziggy Stardust as it is to Ziggy the Comic Strip - it shares the same name; that's it.

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    MarbitChow wrote:
    The Ziggy reference is as much a reference to Ziggy Stardust as it is to Ziggy the Comic Strip - it shares the same name; that's it.
    Whatever it was a reference to, I didn't get it. I haven't gotten most of the references since the end of book 1. I think I might be an aging internet vampire Armand... should probably take up poke-fighting or whatever it is the kids do these days.

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    effataigus wrote:
    MarbitChow wrote:
    The Ziggy reference is as much a reference to Ziggy Stardust as it is to Ziggy the Comic Strip - it shares the same name; that's it.
    Whatever it was a reference to, I didn't get it. I haven't gotten most of the references since the end of book 1. I think I might be an aging internet vampire Armand... should probably take up poke-fighting or whatever it is the kids do these days.


    Before you start yelling at people to get off your lawn, please consider that in this case, it's not about being too old to get the reference. It's about being too young.

    So if old people shout about lawns and getting off them, what do young people shout about? Just getting off?

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 98
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    Wow. How many times have Slately's Casters saved his ass today?

    Ace - Jetpack and Cape
    Cubbins - Pop a cap
    Lloyd - Well-timed clone
    Pierce - Healed Tremmenis so he could be promoted
    Ace - Boulderized Archer

    Did I miss anything? :V

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 98
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    Kaed wrote:
    Wow. How many times have Slately's Casters saved his ass today?

    Ace - Jetpack and Cape
    Cubbins - Pop a cap
    Lloyd - Well-timed clone
    Pierce - Healed Tremmenis so he could be promoted
    Ace - Boulderized Archer

    Did I miss anything? :V

    I think the better question is "How many times have the caster's saved Jetstone's boop today." I believe it would be accurate to say Slately's boop is already roasted. Roasting. Toasting. Or possibly in the hall's of his fathers where the brave shall live forever.

    Ace - Gave him an option to not retreat the way Trem had suggested leading to his death charge (Arguably saving him in that the stairs were treacherous thanks to Red.) Also the cape did in fact save him once.
    Cubbins - Perfect in all ways, I imagine he saved the soul of Jetstone and the king and each and every reader. Poor perfect Cubbins.
    Lloyd - Saved the side, without this one action it would be over.
    Pierce - So true.
    Ace - I don't know if I can love him anymore. But it should be known I have an insane love of Scott Bakula. Ker-sigh, looks like Daddy's Gone.

    Other Casters who have saved the day.
    Wanda - Leaving the battlefield. Took the pliers away, huge save for jetstone.
    Vana - FTW.
    Jojo and the others stopping the parson train - stopping the parson train.
    Maggie - Having Parson appointed CWL
    Jack - Included just to say not a huge factor, his job was mostly played out and his juice was running on empty, just there for scrolling.

    Final Tally - Casters love Jetstone. It's in their blood.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 98
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    So he IS a Downer! Called it! :D


    Hahaha, very nicely done Mr. Erf.

    Count Downer -> Count down = 3....2....1...

    He isn't just a cynic, he's also a new years ball signalling the arrival of a fate point.

    3... First they will die
    2... Then I will die
    1... Then you will die

    Perhaps one side effect of being spawned as a cynic is that you have just a touch of predictomancy in your blood in the same fashion that optimists have a little luckamancy?

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