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 Post subject: Book 2 – Page 86
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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 86
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    I thought all wounds healed at dawn? It seems a little odd that Chewie had so make some special arrangements for Sylvia to heal.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 86
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    Beeskee wrote:
    I thought all wounds healed at dawn? It seems a little odd that Chewie had so make some special arrangements for Sylvia to heal.
    Incapacitated units that aren't healed normally croak.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 86
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    MarbitChow wrote:
    Beeskee wrote:
    I thought all wounds healed at dawn? It seems a little odd that Chewie had so make some special arrangements for Sylvia to heal.
    Incapacitated units that aren't healed normally croak.

    Depends on the type of incapacitation, but yeah.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 86
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    Wow, some people really do want to see the world burn, don't they? Wonder what Jeftichef's trade was.

    Personally, I hope fate catches up with Lady Sylvia, she seems a bit too eager to tempt it. One thing I'm pretty sure of is that this plan to burn the garrison is at least as dangerous as the plan to take down the tower.

    Lateral thinking hasn't led to good results for Erf natives so far, has it?

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 86
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    That is... um... wow.

    Carnymancers can do some FREAKY shit, man. Rigging the rules... and there are so many rules in Erfworld... so much potential for utter mayhem... all you need is imagination. Parson could use a carnymancer, methinks.

    I wonder... are there rules that can't be rigged?

    Also, nerf carnymancers! Seriously, what'd he do, make Sylvia immortal? (I know she died, but still). This is way better than any Luckamancy boost. It's a wicked crazy buff - especially considering it seems to be permanent, seeing how long ago that must have happened. Essential near immortality and people failing to kill you all the time.

    I guess she died in GK that one time because Fate of GK winning was stronger than Jefftichew's rigging of fate.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 86
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    I think all this affair Jeftichew/Sylvia is just another of the -seemingly infinite- Charlie´s Special Ops:

    - Secret Wars versus TGMtTA.
    - King Saline IV´s natural allies rebellion.
    - Wanda´s ambush for Stanley at FAQ, screwed up.
    - Not gobwins natural allies for Gobwin Knob.
    - Secret help to FAQ and (now openly) Jetstone.
    - Jeftichew ambushing Parson at the Magic Kingdom to give him a Charlie-made scroll.

    Seriously... I hope Charlie is about to be revealed as the main and only antagonist.

    Because i think the only other option is that Charlie is being used only as a convenient tool to move the plot while leaving a lot of loops hanging around for future uses. Don´t you thing it´s becoming a bit tiring?

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 86
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    That was total win! A comic page full of Sylvia :D

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 86
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    "Oh dear... my designated superior is an omnicidal maniac with a death wish AND delusions of immortality. Not good. Not good at all."

    I think it's a fair bet that Chewy traded something BIG for a fate realignment like that. Big enough to kill a kingdom perhaps?

    In the words of the prequel "Zero is calling, and the price will be HIGH." It makes Wanda's fatalism all the more understandable.

    Or, equally, Sylvia is just completely insane and sees every near miss as proof of her confirmation bias. In which case, anything that goes hidiously wrong won't make a dent either, because she will just think "It was fated."

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 86
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    Berserkas wrote:
    That is... um... wow.

    Carnymancers can do some FREAKY shit, man. Rigging the rules... and there are so many rules in Erfworld... so much potential for utter mayhem... all you need is imagination. Parson could use a carnymancer, methinks.

    I wonder... are there rules that can't be rigged?

    Also, nerf carnymancers! Seriously, what'd he do, make Sylvia immortal? (I know she died, but still). This is way better than any Luckamancy boost. It's a wicked crazy buff - especially considering it seems to be permanent, seeing how long ago that must have happened. Essential near immortality and people failing to kill you all the time.

    I guess she died in GK that one time because Fate of GK winning was stronger than Jefftichew's rigging of fate.

    Eh, you've read the same stuff about Numbers in book 0... even luckamancy, which superficially doesn't 'trade', has trouble 'cheating' to a net win. Titans know what Jefftichew paid for her de facto immortality, if that is indeed what he got.

    Like the post above me pointed out, 'zero will be calling'... case in point, Sylvia stayed in the game well enough but changed sides in the process, turning around to wipe out the whole of her former kingdom. Sounds a lot like what happened with Wanda. Racking up numbers dept to invest everything in a single unit seems to result in the unit outliving the side, which makes sense at that.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 86
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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 86
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    This is certainly an interesting turn of events. I think this panel accurately describes my thought on Sylvia right now.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 86
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    Searching the garrison, they should find the body of Slately.

    That should lead them to the conclusion that a heir has taken over.
    The king having a double seems to be too unusual to consider.

    The risk of the losing such an important 'prisoner' should prevent
    that plan for burning the garrison.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 86
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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 86
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    vintermann wrote:
    Wow, some people really do want to see the world burn, don't they? Wonder what Jeftichef's trade was.

    Personally, I hope fate catches up with Lady Sylvia, she seems a bit too eager to tempt it. One thing I'm pretty sure of is that this plan to burn the garrison is at least as dangerous as the plan to take down the tower.

    Lateral thinking hasn't led to good results for Erf natives so far, has it?
    Wait, you mean the plan that croaked a caster and a bunch of other units on the tower? And kept pressure on Jetstone? At minimal cost? That was a good plan.


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    I think it's a fair bet that Chewy traded something BIG for a fate realignment like that. Big enough to kill a kingdom perhaps?
    Well it probably gets bigger every time it has to turn a crit into a miss. So Sylvia's inane reliance on it probably is a really bad idea. Also if this is the power of carnymancy and the hammer has carnymancy... not good.

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    Searching the garrison, they should find the body of Slately.

    That should lead them to the conclusion that a heir has taken over.
    The king having a double seems to be too unusual to consider.

    The risk of the losing such an important 'prisoner' should prevent
    that plan for burning the garrison.
    Oh yeah, they should be able to force a surrender right now. The king is dead and Wanda is the only one who can save him. The duty of every Jetstone unit is to protect the king. Parson should be able to call up the dittomancer and say "come to the MK and invite us into your city. We'll decrypt the king and take command of Jetsone!" Of course, Parson is too busy with his character development.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 86
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    I haven't laughed that hard at the end of an Erfworld comic in a while.

    The fanboys got their background on Sylvia, finally.

    So Sylvia seems to have seriously warped since decrypting. This Sylvia would never have complained the way:

    http://www.erfworld.com/book-1-archive/?px=%2F117.jpg

    that Sylvia did.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 86
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    Sylvia, in the flashback is wearing a zero. She, apparently, has been paid for.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 86
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    I don't think Chewy did in fact make her immortal. He just prevented her from croaking that first time when she got burned. She certainly croaked when Gobwin Knob got burned down, otherwise she wouldn't have become decrypted. And all those other times she got away from death (like from all of Artemis' arrows missing) were not due to her incapacitation rules being rigged.

    We don't know what the trade was or what it entailed, but as far as we know it might only be healing or something like that, not super Fate powers. At least, until we know more about it.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 86
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    Wow, a double whammy on character background. Also on Erfworld general background, because it shows how much freedom casters have to use their juice however they see fit, even in ways that aren't very beneficial for the side.

    Also, Lady Artemis gets her first visual appearance, albeit posthumously. But the events surrounding her death are cast in a new light by this strip's revelations. I wonder which caused her arrow to be deflected: Fate or Jojo's "Trade"? Or both?

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