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 Post subject: Book 2 – Page 13
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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 13
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    Tp repeat myself: What a nice Christmas surprise :)

    Seems like Wanda does not like the idea that she isn't the centre of someone's universe, especially when that somebody is Jillian.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 13
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    Wanda hair is looking much better now. Love the bandage on the dragon in the last panel. Ansom is kneeling with Ossomer in the background, there..

    Looks like Wanda isn't ready to handle that question yet.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 13
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    You think her hair looks better? It's still horrible. And I am disappointed with this update, we only learned one new thing, and it was something that a lot of people have guessed.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 13
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    Looks like Jetstone can't appoint a new heir as readily as a Chief Warlord. GK still has the advantage, but Jetstone has a reasonable chance. Of course, their odds might be better than GK knows depending on what Charlie has in the hex. Furthermore, it appears GK doesn't have the numbers even with the infantry to take on the combined columns.

    Also, looks like Wanda's plan is a decapitation strike at Slately. I hope the little guy can fight.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 13
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    Ossomer looks sad. There in the background, with Ansom talking to him.

    Clearly, that big column is enough to take them out. And, evidently, it's big enough to take out their forest forces as well. They really need the city.

    Only 15 dwagons. Jill is in with a big chance.

    Wanda, sadly, wanted a repeat of unaroyal? So she's really desperate to get a conversion?

    Jack is sitting up. Good.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 13
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    And Parson now understands that Wanda's motivations are significant to any long term plans. He should take the very next opportunity to grill her.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 13
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    Dunno what happens if Slately decides to hide in the dungeons / tunnels - got a feeling dwagons aren't tunnel-capable

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 13
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    Jack is sitting up-- yes i see that now. And kudos to Xin for that one, on top of the kudos for the art over all, that was a wonderful piece of signamancy. Just his hat and a few strokes of purple and we can tell it's him on the mend even though we're quite a ways off.

    Also: Wanda is so far from the broken puppet that Parson had to lead away after a temper tantrum from Stanley. No one's going to presume to pat her on the shoulder now!

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 13
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    Ytaker wrote:
    Only 15 dwagons. Jill is in with a big chance.


    No, 15 red and purple Dwagons. They have more colors than that, hence more Dwagons. Rereading the comic, I think Reds and Purples have "siege" attacks. Hence, the plan is to use those Dwagons specifically to attack the tower (where casters get bonuses, I say as an aside), and destroy it. The assumption is Slately is in the tower, and collapsing it will kill him and anyone else in the tower. If Slately goes, so does all Jetstone forces. This also means no more forces to engage and decrypt, except those "frozen in time."

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 13
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    Lord Kasavin wrote:
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    Only 15 dwagons. Jill is in with a big chance.


    No, 15 red and purple Dwagons. They have more colors than that, hence more Dwagons. Rereading the comic, I think Reds and Purples have "siege" attacks. Hence, the plan is to use those Dwagons specifically to attack the tower (where casters get bonuses, I say as an aside), and destroy it. The assumption is Slately is in the tower, and collapsing it will kill him and anyone else in the tower. If Slately goes, so does all Jetstone forces. This also means no more forces to engage and decrypt, except those "frozen in time."


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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 13
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    I don't like thin Parson. He looks like he's 8 years old.

    Weird how the heir doesn't change once the heir is dead. :roll:

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 13
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    Lord Kasavin wrote:
    No, 15 red and purple Dwagons. They have more colors than that, hence more Dwagons. Rereading the comic, I think Reds and Purples have "siege" attacks. Hence, the plan is to use those Dwagons specifically to attack the tower (where casters get bonuses, I say as an aside), and destroy it. The assumption is Slately is in the tower, and collapsing it will kill him and anyone else in the tower. If Slately goes, so does all Jetstone forces. This also means no more forces to engage and decrypt, except those "frozen in time."


    "Screen the fire and siege"

    Sounds to me like Purple Dwagons have siege attacks, while Red Dwagons have fire attacks, which can also be used against the tower.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 13
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    First off Merry Christmas everybody.
    advantages of living at GMT+12
    second off, I quite liked the update, down with all those naysayers
    Seeing Wanda's reaction is interesting, Jillian's Queendom has really rattled her.
    also we know that the bracer is not omniscient as some have suggested. it still suffers from GIGO (Garbage in garbage out).
    I have some doubts about the battle plan, even if they croak Slately, and kill the side that still leaves the Faqian/Faqite (no Faq profanities please!) and the column of heavies still to beat.
    Will Jillian still gain the cities defensive bonus if it's unaligned?, [edit]would GK gain it if the side turns?[edit]
    Also you can't just change heirs if it takes 30 turns to pop one, even an heir designate would cost, and therefore would have to be done on turn

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 13
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    Lots of interesting little details here: Jack apparently recovering, Ansom and Ossomer having a chat, and Wanda seems to be jealous of Ansom's relationship with Jillian.

    I also see that Parson wasn't happy about offering up a new way to win, since it involves or risks large scale croaking. But offer it he did. Perhaps his reluctance to be involved is fading.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 13
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    Ytaker wrote:
    Wanda, sadly, wanted a repeat of unaroyal? So she's really desperate to get a conversion?


    Hmmm... this raises the question of why Wanda wants a repeat of what happened to Unaroyal. Perhaps she realizes that Ansom's willingness to object to her actions foretells future difficulties which might be forestalled if Jetstone (and thus one of Ansom's pre-Decrypted loyalties) is taken out of the picture?

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 13
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    SteveMB wrote:
    Ytaker wrote:
    Wanda, sadly, wanted a repeat of unaroyal? So she's really desperate to get a conversion?


    Hmmm... this raises the question of why Wanda wants a repeat of what happened to Unaroyal. Perhaps she realizes that Ansom's willingness to object to her actions foretells future difficulties which might be forestalled if Jetstone (and thus one of Ansom's pre-Decrypted loyalties) is taken out of the picture?


    I don't think Wanda specifically wants a repeat of the Unaroyal debacle. It's more that she doesn't care if that is what it takes to win.

    I am now convinced that Wanda will be more or less uncontrollable while Ansom is Chief Warlord. He may command all the forces, but Wanda is in charge of him. The only way to rein her in will be to appoint a new Chief Warlord who 1) isn't Decrypted and 2) has the will and nerve to stand up to her. Once Stanley realises that, he may be more willing to reappoint Parson as Chief Warlord, and once Parson realises that... he may yield to the necessity of it.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 13
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    SteveMB wrote:
    Ytaker wrote:
    Wanda, sadly, wanted a repeat of unaroyal? So she's really desperate to get a conversion?


    Hmmm... this raises the question of why Wanda wants a repeat of what happened to Unaroyal. Perhaps she realizes that Ansom's willingness to object to her actions foretells future difficulties which might be forestalled if Jetstone (and thus one of Ansom's pre-Decrypted loyalties) is taken out of the picture?


    Wanda seems to care little about Ansom one way or another. Sure, let him draw up strategy. His bonus is also pretty nice. Howver, as long as Parson vets the strategy, it doesn't really matter whose leading the troops.

    I think Wanda just doesn't care about whats best for the side. What matters is Jetstone's defeat, not whether they can get some more decrypted forces out of it. Afterall, if fate's on their side, they'll win. If not, then all the armies in the world won't matter. Thats just how she thinks. Also, she's become an almost sociopath, where the lives of others means so little to her.

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     Post subject: Re: Book 2 – Page 13
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    Hmm... good points. It could be that she simply doesn't care one way or the other, which may be even more worrisome....

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    Also, she's become an almost sociopath, where the lives of others means so little to her.


    "Almost"?

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    Because she's surrounded by people who kiss her ass twenty-four-seven. Not only this, but she effectively created them and that makes them her slaves. Wanda is evil. There's no doubt in my mind.

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